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Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying About Windows Vista

Inevitable comparisons (or: The grass actually is greener over there)

73. "OS X is better than Vista!"

Information Week says "Mac OS X Shines In Comparison With Windows Vista" – and that was before OS X's fast-selling Leopard upgrade.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=196800670
Computerworld provides an update: "Leopard spanks Vista, continues OS X's reign of excellence... it's impossible to miss the refinement infused throughout Apple's new operating system, whereas there are compromises in Vista that impinge upon the user experience without giving something back in return. Apple is focused on the user experience, while Microsoft appears to be focused on antipiracy, overengineered security protections, and digital rights management aimed at serving its prospective third-party partners... There's really no contest. Tiger is a better OS than Vista, and there are no long-term downsides to Leopard. Vista doesn't measure up."
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&...
USA Today's tech editor tried Vista – and begged for an iMac at the end.
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/columnist/andrewkantor/2007-03-02-vista-pro...
And so on.

74. "GNU/Linux is better than Vista!"

Yes, a free operating system is called better than the world's most expensive one. A brief rundown of reasons: Easier hardware requirements, better security, no DRM or other restrictions, no ceding control to Windows Genuine Advantage, and in many cases, better applications.
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/62060,five-ways-linux-is-better-than-vista...
ZD Net opines: "Since the late 90s I've dabbled with Linux, but there have always been compelling reasons to return to, or stick with, Windows. No more, for two reasons: Vista, and Ubuntu [Linux] 7.10."
http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006214o-2000331758b,00.htm
"Having used Ubuntu for the best part of a year, I'm a fan... Which leaves my Vista machine... it's not been a good experience. The wireless networking is vastly unreliable when switching between different access points... But mostly: it's slow, it's intrusive, and it's arbitrarily different. It takes minutes to wake up from various sleep states or from a restart; minutes in which parts of the system seem to get going only to lapse into an unresponsive state where you're not at all sure whether your mouse clicks are registering... Elsewhere, it behaves like XP behaves on a 256MB computer, only it's running in 2GB. Everything is just... slow... It boils down to one abiding impression: Ubuntu goes out of its way to get out of your way, even if it doesn't succeed all the time. Vista goes out of its way to be Vista and enforce the Vista way. You must conform regardless of the implications."
http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006217o-2000331777b,00.htm
"My advice to [Linux user] whingers: spend 10 days using the latest version of Windows and you'll realise that you are living in a world of relative bliss."
http://www.itwire.com.au/content/view/13114/1090/

75. "Vista rips off other OSes!"

Aero? Aqua.
Windows Sidebar? Dashboard.
Instant Search? Spotlight.

A typical online comment: "The best way to sum up Vista is this: go to a store that sells Apple computers (like an Apple store!) and play with OS X. That's basically what Vista is--a knock-off of Mac OSX."
http://reviews.cnet.com/windows/microsoft-vista-home-basic/4864-3672_7-3...
While the web is rife with claims that Vista copies OS X, some see "borrowings" from GNU/Linux as well: "... the updates they’ve made with [A]ero aren’t even vaguely imaginative. In fact, they just seem to be blatant rip-offs of both modern Linux and Apple interfaces."
http://www.vistareview.info/2007/03/06/the-windows-vista-gui-interface-i...

76. "Vista's been leapfrogged by OS X Leopard (10.5)!"

"Tiger fared well against Microsoft's offerings, but Leopard takes a real leap ahead."
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&...
"Leopard makes it far easier to find documents and applications than Windows Vista."
http://reviews.cnet.com/macintosh-os/mac-os-x-10/4505-3673_7-32058772.ht...
"Vista has widgets, but they can't beat Leopard's for ease of use."
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&...

77. "Vista doesn't even match up to OS X Tiger (10.4)!"

"If you were to analyze the most vital elements of a computing platform--security, interface, and performance--Mac OS X Tiger trumps Windows Vista, and is our pick as the superior operating system."
http://www.laptopmag.com/Features/Mac-OS-X-Tiger-vs-Windows-Vista.htm?pa...

78. "Leopard is as bad as Vista!"

Complaints about the Mac OS X Leopard are far, far fewer than diatribes against Vista – but upgrades to Leopard haven't been flawless for everyone, and there are certainly some unhappy souls out there. What's interesting is this: When a disgruntled shopper wants to put down the Mac OS, what curse does he use? He calls it a Vista! "[Leopard] is not better than Vista. Leopard is Vista. And Tiger is better than both of them!"
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2223921,00.asp

Vista sales (or: The birth rate must be declining)

79. "Nobody's buying Vista!"

Vista isn't selling well. "Standalone unit sales of Vista at U.S. retail stores were down 59.7 percent compared with Windows XP, during each product's first six months on store shelves, according to NPD Group... "It's just not doing well," NPD analyst Chris Swenson said of Vista's performance at retail stores..."
http://www.news.com/Running-the-numbers-on-Vista/2100-1016_3-6207375.html
"... there is still no great rush in the corporate world to adopt Vista... Vista has also been slow to catch fire among consumers."
http://seekingalpha.com/article/47615-microsoft-no-one-s-catching-the-vi...
Whether initial sales of Vista were good or not, they drop off sharply: "Microsoft today revealed that it had sold 40 million copies of Windows Vista in the 100 days since its late-January debut... While significant, the sales point to a rapid slowdown in adoption of the new operating system."
http://www.macnn.com/articles/07/05/15/vista.sales.halved/
An update from CES in early 2008: "...[Microsoft's] once dominant grip on the OS market is loosening. Based on Gates' statement, Windows Vista was aboard just 39% of the PC's that shipped in 2007... And Vista, in terms of units shipped, only marginally outperformed first year sales of Windows XP according to Gates' numbers -- despite the fact that the PC market has almost doubled in size since XP launched... The numbers are no doubt troubling for Microsoft, which spent millions of dollars developing and promoting Windows Vista... Despite the efforts, many corporate and individual PC users have turned their backs on Vista -- citing concerns about its resource requirements and compatibility with older applications."
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/67663,majority-of-new-pcs-ship-without-windows-vista-gates-unintentionally-reveals.aspx

80. "Vista isn't spurring new PC sales"

PC manufacturers, and everyone else connected to the industry, hoped Vista would kick sales in the rear. But it's not happening. Says the analyst behind a report on Vista's sales effects: "My view is that, as a motivating factor to go buy a PC, Vista is not enough."
http://www.news.com/Is-Vista-helping-boost-PC-sales/2100-1016_3-6186086....
Fast-growing Acer Computer had sales hopes dashed by Vista: "Acer Inc yesterday revised downward its revenue growth to less than 40 percent, citing a weaker-than-expected impact from the release of Microsoft's Vista operating system."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2007/06/15/2003365394
Says Gartner analyst George Shiffler: "The release of Microsoft Windows Vista operating system at the end of January has, so far, failed to stimulate the market in the way many hoped."
http://www.informationweek.com/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=20000...

81. "Vista? We're not even going to think about it until SP 1"

"[Corporate technology departments] are waiting for Microsoft to bless [Vista] with a service pack..."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,289431,00.html
This isn't about little mom-and-pop businesses with no knowledge of technology. Even Microsoft's closest partners, like Intel and Dell, are turning up their noses at Vista until SP 1 comes out. "We knew we would roll out Vista internally faster than any other OS (but) if we are at the SP1 level it is going to be safer."
http://www.news.com/Intel%2C-Dell-hold-off-on-internal-rollout-of-Vista/...
Says a lead analyst at Directions on Microsoft: "We'll almost look back to SP1 as the [Vista] launch date."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/vista_one_year_later.html

82. "Microsoft is lying about Vista sales!"

Microsoft claims that Vista sales are good, but not everyone agrees with the reported numbers. "Microsoft has claimed they have sold as many as 20 million copies of Vista... There are not 20 million computers with Vista installed so instead of claiming that, they claim 20 million copies have sold. What they have not said is how many of those copies were sold to retailers to put on store shelves which may or may not have been sold to consumers by now."
http://vista.blorge.com/2007/03/27/vista-sales-not-20-million-strong-as-...
"In February, Microsoft insisted it had already sold more than 20 million copies of Windows Vista. Oh yeah, like there were actually 20 million copies of Vista already out there and running. Pull the other leg, it's got bells on."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2190228,00.asp
A parting shot (from what is actually one of the more Vista-friendly pages referenced here): "Admittedly, I find myself amused with the latest Vista sales numbers, as they seem to forget how many of those same people are disgusted once they break the seal and want to take Vista back."
http://www.osweekly.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2685&I...

83. "Microsoft is searching for scapegoats!"

"Ballmer admitted to financial analysts that the predictions for Vista had proved 'overly optimistic' and he blamed the pirates in China, India, Brazil, Russia and other emerging markets... Of course he is ignoring the fact that a lot of people are not buying Vista because it does not offer much more than XP and Windows Genuine Advantage makes their lives a misery."
http://www.theinquirer.net/en/inquirer/news/2007/02/19/ballmer-blames-pi...

84. "Why are OS X sales booming since the release of Vista?"

You'll hardly be alone if you suspect a connection. In the Vista era, reports like the following are a daily occurrence:
"Apple is gaining major ground in the war for dominance of the lucrative battleground known as college campuses."
http://mac.blorge.com/2007/10/22/apple-gaining-ground-in-university-camp...
"According to a report issued Monday by market researcher Net Applications, the Mac's worldwide market share among Web users increased to 6.6 percent in September, compared to 4.7 percent a year ago -- a 40 percent increase."
http://www.newsfactor.com/story.xhtml?story_id=010000ZWAKLM
"This year, the [Princeton] University's Student Computer Initiative has sold more Macs than PCs. Students were offered a selection of Dell, IBM and Apple computers, and 60 percent chose Macs, up from 45 percent last year... Vista's sleek new interface — touted as sexy by Microsoft advocates — is almost useless and is so taxing that the system should be sold with additional memory. I mean, why hassle your customers?"
http://www.dailyprincetonian.com/archives/2007/10/05/news/18871.shtml
It's enterprise too: "...there are actually really good reasons why investors should wake up to the possibility that XP/Vista/etc. won't be the dominant desktop platform forever, and that Apple could represent a new paradigm in enterprise computing."
http://seekingalpha.com/article/30474-apple-for-enterprise-yes-change-do...
"We expect that much of today's IT infrastructure is going to be turned upside down by the invasion of consumer technologies... Consumerization is going to make IT's job harder, and platforms like the Mac are going to become increasingly common, in many cases in spite of the wishes of management."
http://seekingalpha.com/article/47275-corporate-use-of-macs-on-the-rise?...

Reactions to Vista (or: Humanity united at last)

85. "IT nerds hate Vista!"

Vista problems have even the experts giving up, says this article: "Unless Microsoft pulls a rabbit out of its hat, Vista may go down in history as the software that brought down a mighty empire... [P]eople are not going to lay down their hard-earned money for something that doesn’t work."
http://www.lockergnome.com/nexus/blade/2007/02/28/vista-even-the-experts...
A case in point is this long-term Longhorn/Vista tester's widely-read tale of surrender: "I gave Vista a real chance. I just can’t use it as my primary OS anymore."
http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/02/27/windows-vista-im-breaking-up-with-you/
More advice: "...it seems to make more sense to avoid Vista altogether, keep Windows XP, and just wait until Windows 7."
http://vista.blorge.com/2007/07/27/avoid-vista-keep-xp-and-wait-for-wind...
There's agreement over at eWEEK: "I can't think of a single reason to switch from XP to Vista. I'm not talking a good reason, I really mean any reason."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2190228,00.asp

86. "Consumers hate Vista!"

The Dutch Consumers' Association wants Microsoft to provide angry Vista purchasers with Windows XP instead. "After a survey conducted by the Consumers’ Association showed that the performance of Microsoft’s latest operating system was very poor, the Association set up a registration centre for complaints about Vista. In less than five weeks 5,000 users filed complaints about the functioning of the system. "The product has many teething problems, it is just not ready," a spokesperson for the association said. Printers and other hardware reportedly failed in combination with Vista, computers crash regularly and the peripherals are very slow."
http://www.expatica.com/actual/article.asp?subchannel_id=1&story_id=44868

87. "Enterprises hate Vista!"

"Yesterday, Michael Silver, vice president of Gartner client computing, gave me the dim view of Microsoft's flagship operating system. 'Vista adoption in the enterprise has been really poor,' he said. 'Enterprises are about a year behind where they told us they'd be a year ago.'... A year ago, Gartner forecast that early Vista deployments would begin in earnest by the fourth quarter of 2007 and reach threshold by the second quarter of 2008. Now, mainstream enterprise adoption is tracking for early 2009, about the time Microsoft is supposed to be wrapping up Vista successor Windows 7."
http://www.microsoft-watch.com/content/vista/vista_one_year_later.html
Here's some advice to enterprise procurement managers: "Hey, category managers in charge of IT spend. Want to make yourself a friend of the business for life? I've got a secret for you: don't rubberstamp your CIO's decision to upgrade to Vista or Office 2007. In fact, tack on a big "reject" to the request or the requisition. And don't do it to save money. Do it to save your hide."
http://www.spendmatters.com/index.cfm/2007/2/27/Vista--Outlook-2007-is-a...
Even Rob Enderle, an "analyst" noted for his pro-Microsoft stance, says: "Vista adoption is well below where I thought it would be by now...Corporations aren't even close to being ready for Vista, and many of us have been expecting this move. The biggest issue is that most don't seem to see the value in the product. Right now the majority of the comments I'm getting would indicate the people [who] don't want Vista right now are in the majority."
http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1895,2190228,00.asp
"A survey published by InformationWeek [in 2007] revealed that 30% of corporate desktop managers have no plans to upgrade their company's PC's to Vista -- ever."
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/67663,majority-of-new-pcs-ship-without-win...

88. "Even the industry hates Vista!"

Says Gianfranco Lanci, president of PC manufacturer Acer: “The whole industry is disappointed with Windows Vista.”
http://mybroadband.co.za/news/Software/727.html
International Data Corp (IDC) vice president Bob O'Donnell said that Vista had failed to live up to the hype that had excited the market, with a lukewarm reception especially from the commercial sector: "The reality is that people are not buying PCs because of Vista; they buy because they need one."
http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/biz/archives/2007/06/15/2003365394
Meanwhile developers are also giving The Big V the Big Cold Shoulder: as of mid 2008, only a tenth of developers in one survey were writing apps for Vista, a small fraction on those coding for XP.
http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-9969231-16.html

89. "Vista? Ban it!"

What do the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the U.S. Department of Transportation, and the Federal Aviation Administration have in common? They've openly banned Vista, for reasons ranging from software incompatibility to upgrade costs.
http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=198000229
http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2007/03/14/government-agencies-ban-win...
Some schools, meanwhile, are shunning Vista for reasons ranging from lack of compelling reason for an upgrade to Microsoft's anti-competitive practices.
http://www.neowin.net/news/main/07/10/27/uk-schools-warned-to-avoid-a-mi...
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/software/0,1000000121,39285414,00.htm

90. "Vista? What a joke!"

Literally. Everyone's making fun of it. CRACKED magazine says about Microsoft: "No producer of goods in the history of man has sold so much while caring so little. The combined love and craftsmanship in the every copy of Windows Vista sold in 2007 would roughly equal that put into one toddler's Play-Doh snake. Here was a program with several features, such as a warning box that pops up every five minutes or so to ask you if you're sure you want to do what you're doing, so shamelessly broken that they seemed to have been added on a drunken dare... Nearly everyone hated Vista, in the way that nearly everyone hates being stabbed...Vista is one of those things the future will laugh at us for, in the same way we laugh about old hospitals using leeches."
http://www.cracked.com/article_15773_p4.html

A small sampler if you want more in that vein:
http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20070901&mode=classic
http://www.davesdaily.com/pictures/541-microsoft-windows-vista-humor.htm
http://franksworld.com/blog/archive/2007/01/31/4412.aspx
http://www.joyoftech.com/joyoftech/joyimages/915.gif
http://www.windowsvistaweblog.com/2007/03/24/the-meaning-behind-vista/
http://blip.tv/file/340692/
http://dotnet.org.za/codingsanity/archive/2007/12/14/review-windows-xp.aspx

Goodbye Vista (or: The New Road Ahead)

91. "I won't upgrade to Vista!"

It's a common cry online: "I for one, will not be upgrading to Vista... Microsoft, how about some real innovation before you start wanting us to hand over our hard-earned money for something we don’t really want, but will eventually feel obliged to buy because everyone else is buying it."
http://tech.blorge.com/Structure:%20/2006/11/30/three-reasons-why-i-wont...

92. "I want to upgrade to XP!"

Yes, that's what people are calling the retreat from Vista back to the aged XP: an upgrade. They're weighing in by blog: "I have finally decided to take the plunge. Last night I upgraded my Vista desktop machine to Windows XP."
http://dotnet.org.za/codingsanity/archive/2007/12/14/review-windows-xp.aspx
They're weighing in by video: "Here's why I'm "upgrading" from Windows Vista to Windows XP..."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HELrxLdP85c
As you'd expect, computer manufacturers retreating from Vista prefer to speak of "downgrading" to XP. But they're offering it all the same, in response to customer pleas. One example among many:
http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/VSTA-DWNGRD.html

93. "Extend my XP support!"

Windows users have spoken loud and clear: We want XP support, because we're not moving to Vista! And Microsoft has been forced to listen: "Microsoft has extended the life of Windows XP because Vista has simply not shown any life in the market."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2209837,00.asp

94. "I want to buy a computer with XP, not Vista!"

Vista problems have PC makers scrambling to meet a new need: "While Microsoft is still pushing Vista hard, the company is quietly allowing PC makers to offer a "downgrade" option to buyers that get machines with the new operating system but want to switch to Windows XP."
http://www.news.com/The-XP-alternative-for-Vista-PCs/2100-1016_3-6209481...
"“We heard you loud and clear on bringing the Windows XP option back to our Dell consumer PC offerings,” Dell said on its Ideas in Action page, a companion to its IdeaStorm site."
http://vista.blorge.com/2007/04/21/dell-blinks-on-windows-vista-offering/
It's not just computer manufacturers, but resellers too: "VARs and system builders said the Vista issues are so significant that they are simply ripping Vista off most systems. "We are ripping it off systems 99 percent of the time," said Jay Tipton, vice president of Technology Specialists, a Fort Wayne, Ind., Microsoft Gold partner... Glen Coffield, president of Smart Guys Computers, an Orlando, Fla.-based retail chain with six stores in central Florida, said his No. 1 service job right now is wiping Vista off systems and replacing it with Windows XP."
http://www.crn.com/white-box/200900857

95. "Would I install Vista again? No!"

Says the BBC: "Everywhere I look, there are blogs and forums full of people who have problems with software drivers and suffer the poor customer support of the hundreds of hardware and software vendors that make up the Windows ecosystem. So would I do it again? The answer is no."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/6407419.stm

96. "How do I uninstall Vista?"

The web's packed with tutorials and advice for those wanting to cleanse their computers of Vista. A small sampling:
http://www.removevista.com/
http://www.vista4beginners.com/How-to-Uninstall-Windows-Vista
http://www.community.probz.com/index.php?showtopic=553
http://www.pctechbytes.com/computer/article-87.html
http://www.chuckegg.com/how-to-remove-microsoft-vista-and-replace-it-wit...
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&...

97. "Goodbye, Vista!"

"...Vista was too painful for words. I said goodbye after 2 days. It took 4 years for XP to get to adequate. Will it take Vista that long or will Microsoft pull a Windows ME and replace Vista with another OS before Vista gets fixed?"
http://chris.pirillo.com/2007/08/30/mac-os-x-leopard-vs-microsoft-window...
"I’ve been a Microsoft loyalist for a long time… but I’m starting to feel like I’m being a bit short-changed with Vista."
http://chris.pirillo.com/2006/09/08/leopard-vs-windows-vista/ (see comments)
"I just filed my divorce papers for Microsoft's Vista. In my case, my relationship with Vista never went through the good life period. I gave up half of my assets to "live" with Vista (memory, CPU, performance, costs). But when I split up with Vista, I got it all back!"
http://blogs.ittoolbox.com/eai/madgreek/archives/dumping-vista-a-divorce...

98. "Goodbye, Windows!"

Not just "Goodbye Vista", but "Goodbye, Windows".
"I recently made the BIG mistake of buying my wife an HP laptop with Vista installed... it runs Vista like a Pig. So one 2GB upgrade later and it still runs vista like a Pig, my wife is about ready to throw the machine out of the window. So I started consider alternatives…. Mac OSX is the future for me."
http://brianballard.wordpress.com/2007/11/30/goodbye-vista-hello-mac/
"Ninety percent of some 961 IT professionals surveyed said they have concerns about migrating to Microsoft's Vista... 44% of respondents have considered non-Windows operating systems, such as Linux and Macintosh, to avoid the Microsoft migration."
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2007/111607-vista-worries.html
"Contributing to Vista's woes is the fact that new desktop alternatives to the Windows operating system have emerged in recent years -- including Apple's beefed up Leopard OS and open source offerings from Ubuntu and other Linux distributors."
http://www.itnews.com.au/News/67663,majority-of-new-pcs-ship-without-win...

99. "Hello, OS X!"

"Leopard again raises the question of whether to switch from Windows to a Mac. I've found Vista to be a major disappointment that tends to look worse the more I use it... OS X is easier to manage and maintain and I vastly prefer OS X to Windows for Web-browsing, mail, and especially for any task that involves graphics, music, or video... Leopard is the only OS on the planet that works effortlessly and intuitively in today's world of networked computers and peripherals."
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2209107,00.asp
"Even with the performance and stability improvements promised with Vista's first service pack, the tide was turning in Apple's favor even before the launch of Leopard. That's because of Mac OS X' ease of use, lack of crapware, and stronger security. Now that Leopard is here, we predict that many more consumers will be making the jump to Apple."
http://www.laptopmag.com/Features/Leopard-vs-Vista.htm?page=9

100. "Hello, open source!"

Representative news from the Vista era: "The Japanese government wants to go open source... The government has said explicitly it wants to decrease its reliance on Microsoft as a server operating system platform."
http://www.linuxworld.com/newsletters/linux/2007/0507linux2.html
Elsewhere on the globe: "Local chief information officers at a Sydney conference this week were more interested in talking about open source and standards-based software than Microsoft's new operating system... "[Windows Vista] makes absolutely no difference to us whatsoever.""
http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/software/soa/Aussie-CIOs-get-clearer-vista-...
Meanwhile, developers are leaving Windows: "We attribute [the decline] largely to the increase in developers beginning to target Linux and different Linux [distributions]."
http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/07/02/mswindows-share_1.html
Even if Vista were a decent product and not a sinking raft of troubles, it'd be hard-pressed to meet open-source's value proposition. Opines The Economist: "When firms are used to buying $1,000 office PCs running Vista Business Edition and loading each with a $200 copy of Microsoft Office, the attractions of a sub-$500 computer using a free operating system like Linux and a free productivity suite like OpenOffice suddenly become very compelling... And that’s not counting the $20,000 or more needed for Microsoft’s Exchange and SharePoint server software. Again, Linux provides such server software for free..."
http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?story_id=10410912

The Wrap

While I'm here, let me add a freebie item #101:

101. "Microsoft's list of 100 Vista benefits is really padded!"

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsvista/100reasons.mspx?w...
Take a good, long look at Microsoft's list, and you'll see the same Vista features awkwardly stretched into multiple benefits, again and again and again. (Random thought: Is bologna technically meat any more when it's over 80% extenders and fillers?)

Whew!

What a trip! The list represents only a smattering of the online world's railings against Vista. I've concentrated on comments from recognized media sources, with a sampling of out-takes from lesser-known bloggers and blog comment posters, while eschewing profanity-laden rants and "Vista suxxors!" blatherings. I've also avoided criticisms based on pre-release versions of Vista, except for a few particularly interesting items as noted.

There's no need to pad this article with extraneous content; in fact, I had to consolidate several items to bring the number down to 100. Believe me, when it comes to collecting anti-Vista venom, there's no shortage of first-rate material to work with.

But let's end on a positive note. The Vista experience shows clearly that the days of "you'll take what we give you and you'll like it" are closing. Give people a bad product now and they'll speak up, with the Internet magnifying their voices a hundred-fold.

And then a crowd will step up to the plate to deliver what the people actually want. In this case, the world demands great computers, and the world is getting them – whether self-assured big names think they're coming along for the ride or not. More and more, people are taking the power of choice into their own hands, and that's as positive a story as I can think of.

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Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

What do you mean by modest requirements?

My Ubuntu installation gives be a smooth 3D desktop on a system with 512 MB RAM and an nVIDIA video card with 64 MB of video memory. Can u assist me in getting Vista ultimate edition up and running on this system?

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

Are you kidding me? Get with the times moron. Whaaaa! Vista won't run on my 486SX with 1 MB ram..... Damn Microsoft wants me to upgrade.... I'll show them and keep using Win 3.1 .... HA HA I showed them...

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

I'm not a moron. This is a decent spec in most developing parts of the globe. Also, if Ubuntu can run smoothly on the same system with all those built-in programs, why shouldn't I expect Vista to run too, especially when it comes with dumbed down built-in programs?

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

I have run Vista Home Premium on similar specs (512MB RAM and graphics card that had either 32MB or 64MB - can't remember...it died...and a modest Athlon XP2200 CPU). Vista ran fine. To my knowledge Vista Ultimate doesn't require more power than Home Premium.

As far as assisting you with getting it to work...Windows has a feature where you put the CD in the drive and click 'Install Now'. The rest is done for you, although at some point you need to tell it what time zone you're in. It will install in about 30 minutes...actually probably more like 1 hour on your hardware.

Anyway, you can run Vista no problem with the hardware you specified. I don't know what you mean by a 3D desktop - Windows doesn't have this feature. It sounds like some sort of gimmicky toy interface.

So why are you interested in Vista? Are you sick of the hassle of installing hardware on Linux or sick of the fact you can't find any software that works?

If you really want to go to Windows, I'd recommend XP as it performs slightly better than Vista on outdated hardware.

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

Cloaked Lurker wrote:

As far as assisting you with getting it to work...Windows has a feature where you put the CD in the drive and click 'Install Now'. The rest is done for you, although at some point you need to tell it what time zone you're in. It will install in about 30 minutes...actually probably more like 1 hour on your hardware.

Why do you expect me to commit so much money and buy Ultimate without knowing that it will work?

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
I don't know what you mean by a 3D desktop - Windows doesn't have this feature. It sounds like some sort of gimmicky toy interface.

I was speaking of Compiz of Linux world. U don't seem to have ever tried Linux. It is far more useful than that useless Aero interface of Vista. Anyway will Aero run on my system, without an upgrade?

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
So why are you interested in Vista? Are you sick of the hassle of installing hardware on Linux or sick of the fact you can't find any software that works?

Hassles with Linux? What are they? I have not faced any which made be even log out and re-login. I want to try Vista, coz I want to understand what this whole thing about virus, spyware and adware is about. Seriously these unique programs don't work on Linux (as you told).

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

You can borrow a Vista install disk and run it as a trial for 30 days without paying. I'm pretty sure this is legal.
Aero works fine as long as you have a dedicated graphics card, though 64MB is a bit low and you may get a little bit of lag from time to time. You'd be running BELOW the minimum specs, so your mileage may vary.

I've used Linux, but neve a 3D desktop. I see no reason to use 3D really. I think I've seen what you describe on Youtube - looks cool, but would be pointless for what I use the PC for.

Vista's interface is far from useless. It's certainly more useful than Mac OS or the versions of Linux I've tried. It's also much improved over previous versions of Windows (I have to use older versions of Windows at work and I cringe every time I find another little thing that's a little bit easier in Vista.

If you want spyware and viruses on Vista you'd most likely have to both disable the security features AND do some seriously dumb things, such as open attachments in spam. Viruses and malware are not an OS issue. They are deliberate attempts to undermine security. Is a bank robber going to rob a bank that has millions of customers or one that has a handful? You luckily will probably never have these issues with Linux as it will never have a big enough market share. If you can't trust your own intelligence behind the keyboard, stick with Linux and you won't get malware. I've not had an issue with malware on either of my Vista computers and they've been running Vista for over a year.

I haven't touched Linux in over a year, but last time I installed it I couldn't get drivers for half my hardware...and it was clunky and ugly (granted not a big deal). There was a stupid penguin game that might have been fun were it not for the lack of sound drivers. If it didn't all come across as so amateurish it would have lasted longer than a week on that system. I'm sure Linux is good for some people (presumably too tightfisted to buy Windows or not interested in compatibility of hardware and software or using industry standard software). Linux has (apparently) come a long way in the last year, but I've not heard a SINGLE compelling reason for a Windows user to switch. All I've heard is a lot of nonsense (lies about Vista's performance, mainly) and fanboy arguments that amount to a urination contest.

In all seriousness, can you name a single compelling reason for an average Windows user to switch to Linux? (without resorting to rehashing lies about the hardware requirements or nonsense about malware, which is 90% the user's 'fault'). I'll give you a hint: the 100 things in the above article are mostly exaggerations or misconceptions.

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
I've used Linux, but neve a 3D desktop. I see no reason to use 3D really. I think I've seen what you describe on Youtube - looks cool, but would be pointless for what I use the PC for.

3D may bot increase the usability by leaps and bounds for all desktop uses. But if Vista's Aero and 3D flip are going to be hyped so much, definitely Compiz offers far better and more useful feature set for much lesss hardware resources.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
Is a bank robber going to rob a bank that has millions of customers or one that has a handful? You luckily will probably never have these issues with Linux as it will never have a big enough market share. If you can't trust your own intelligence behind the keyboard, stick with Linux and you won't get malware. I've not had an issue with malware on either of my Vista computers and they've been running Vista for over a year.

This is a bogus claim seen all over internet. Basing lack of viruses for Linux on its market share is totally baseless. The reason Linux and Mac OS X have fewer viruses is that they are based on time tested principles of UNIX. If market share is the reason, I have a counter-example. As of this very second, there are more sites (including mission critical ones) running on Apache. But the most number of real-world exploits have been on IIS (far more than Apache). The fact is the fast evolution and patching of open-source software makes exploits less likely. Even if Apache has more possible vulnerabilities at any particular point of time, they get fixed much faster than those of Windows. This makes it more difficult for the attacker to attack a large base of installation as patches would have been rolled out by then.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
I haven't touched Linux in over a year, but last time I installed it I couldn't get drivers for half my hardware...and it was clunky and ugly (granted not a big deal).

Then please don't comment on its current state.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
In all seriousness, can you name a single compelling reason for an average Windows user to switch to Linux? (without resorting to rehashing lies about the hardware requirements or nonsense about malware, which is 90% the user's 'fault'). I'll give you a hint: the 100 things in the above article are mostly exaggerations or misconceptions.

I can give many, cost (OS, Anti-virus, Office suite, graphics app, etc), freedom (read Vista's EULA properly and there is a fat chance that u are already violating few of its terms, though u have bought ur copy legally). If u call it users' fault, I have installed Ubuntu, no anti-virus, not even firewall. I run few servers which are publicly accessible, so I have 6 ports opened with unrestricted port forwarding on router and all the servers using them are running in root mode. I check many spam attachments to ensure I don't miss something normal (especially if the subject is looking sensible). I have no virus or malware so far. I have installed it on 3 HP and 2 Dell laptops so far. No h/w or s/w issues on them too. My friend who got a dell laptop with Vista home basic, is finding it too slow for running heavy apps, mind u no Aero there. Also, u asked me not to mention some of the primary negatives of Vista. Also, in the original article most (not all) of the references are from eminent trusted sites not some kid's blog.

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Chandru wrote:
Cloaked Lurker wrote:
I've used Linux, but neve a 3D desktop. I see no reason to use 3D really. I think I've seen what you describe on Youtube - looks cool, but would be pointless for what I use the PC for.

3D may bot increase the usability by leaps and bounds for all desktop uses. But if Vista's Aero and 3D flip are going to be hyped so much, definitely Compiz offers far better and more useful feature set for much lesss hardware resources.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
Is a bank robber going to rob a bank that has millions of customers or one that has a handful? You luckily will probably never have these issues with Linux as it will never have a big enough market share. If you can't trust your own intelligence behind the keyboard, stick with Linux and you won't get malware. I've not had an issue with malware on either of my Vista computers and they've been running Vista for over a year.

This is a bogus claim seen all over internet. Basing lack of viruses for Linux on its market share is totally baseless. The reason Linux and Mac OS X have fewer viruses is that they are based on time tested principles of UNIX. If market share is the reason, I have a counter-example. As of this very second, there are more sites (including mission critical ones) running on Apache. But the most number of real-world exploits have been on IIS (far more than Apache). The fact is the fast evolution and patching of open-source software makes exploits less likely. Even if Apache has more possible vulnerabilities at any particular point of time, they get fixed much faster than those of Windows. This makes it more difficult for the attacker to attack a large base of installation as patches would have been rolled out by then.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
I haven't touched Linux in over a year, but last time I installed it I couldn't get drivers for half my hardware...and it was clunky and ugly (granted not a big deal).

Then please don't comment on its current state.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
In all seriousness, can you name a single compelling reason for an average Windows user to switch to Linux? (without resorting to rehashing lies about the hardware requirements or nonsense about malware, which is 90% the user's 'fault'). I'll give you a hint: the 100 things in the above article are mostly exaggerations or misconceptions.

I can give many, cost (OS, Anti-virus, Office suite, graphics app, etc), freedom (read Vista's EULA properly and there is a fat chance that u are already violating few of its terms, though u have bought ur copy legally). If u call it users' fault, I have installed Ubuntu, no anti-virus, not even firewall. I run few servers which are publicly accessible, so I have 6 ports opened with unrestricted port forwarding on router and all the servers using them are running in root mode. I check many spam attachments to ensure I don't miss something normal (especially if the subject is looking sensible). I have no virus or malware so far. I have installed it on 3 HP and 2 Dell laptops so far. No h/w or s/w issues on them too. My friend who got a dell laptop with Vista home basic, is finding it too slow for running heavy apps, mind u no Aero there. Also, u asked me not to mention some of the primary negatives of Vista. Also, in the original article most (not all) of the references are from eminent trusted sites not some kid's blog.

You have no Anti-Virus and you haven't had any virus yet. Is this based on the theory that if you can't identify a virus it can't exist? I might as well close my eyes and say the sun hasn't come out today.

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

Chandru wrote:

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
In all seriousness, can you name a single compelling reason for an average Windows user to switch to Linux? (without resorting to rehashing lies about the hardware requirements or nonsense about malware, which is 90% the user's 'fault'). I'll give you a hint: the 100 things in the above article are mostly exaggerations or misconceptions.

I can give many, cost (OS, Anti-virus, Office suite, graphics app, etc), freedom (read Vista's EULA properly and there is a fat chance that u are already violating few of its terms, though u have bought ur copy legally).

A simple 'no' would have sufficed.

I'd agree with the cost of the OS - Vista is quite expensive, though most users get this included in the price of their PC (the average user doesn't build their own system nor perform upgrades).

As for other software, there is more free software available for Windows than for any other OS, including the exhttp://www.microsplot.com/comment/reply/35/66?quote=1
MICROSPLOT | technology is a funny thingamples you used (office, anti-virus, graphics, etc.). Though like with an OS, free software is not usually as good as commercial equivalents. I use OpenOffice.org at home and MS Office at work...I find that OpenOffice is great, but it lacks a lot of features that I find very useful in MS Office, and it's not quite as user friendly despite the blatant attempt to mimick Microsoft's product.

Freedom...it's a good point but it does not affect the average user at all. Legally, MS probably can't even enforce their EUA (which is, quite possibly, not a fair EUA).

Performance is a moot point as well. Tests show that performance is comparable on the same hardware between Windows and Linux (i.e. no major difference). Given that Vista by default has a lot more features, performance is going to be sacrificed. That said, on any harware manufactured within the last few years Windows XP/Vista will work like a dream. I'm running a PC on the cusp of Vista 'minimum specs', yet the only way it could be more responsive is if it reacted to something BEFORE I did it.

Would the average user sacrifice compatibility, familiarity, and ease of use for a speed increase that most likely can only be proven with benchmarking software? I doubt it.

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Cloaked Lurker wrote:
(the average user doesn't build their own system nor perform upgrades).

This may be true in US/Europe. In developing parts of the world, more than 70% of systems are assembled by local vendors who happily charge the cost of a legal license but provide a pirated copy.

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
I find that OpenOffice is great, but it lacks a lot of features that I find very useful in MS Office, and it's not quite as user friendly despite the blatant attempt to mimick Microsoft's product.

More than 90% of office suite work done by normal users can be done on Openoffice. I'm yet to see person who is not a Microsoft fanboy saying that OOo is not user friendly. If u call the GUI layout of OOo as copying, then MS in its entire lifetime has not created one single product which is built completely on its own innovation. Vista is probably its biggest copied failure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-_xAKSWkdE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-2C2gb6ws8

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
Freedom...it's a good point but it does not affect the average user at all. Legally, MS probably can't even enforce their EUA (which is, quite possibly, not a fair EUA).

Not until MS and BSA come with police force for a friendly raid.

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

Chandru wrote:
3D may bot increase the usability by leaps and bounds for all desktop uses. But if Vista's Aero and 3D flip are going to be hyped so much, definitely Compiz offers far better and more useful feature set for much lesss hardware resources.

Small correction there it is not "bot" it is "not"

Re: Anything but Speechless: 100 Things People Are Really Saying

Cloaked Lurker wrote:
Chandru wrote:
3D may bot increase the usability by leaps and bounds for all desktop uses. But if Vista's Aero and 3D flip are going to be hyped so much, definitely Compiz offers far better and more useful feature set for much lesss hardware resources.

Small correction there it is not "bot" it is "not"

Another small correction it's "less" not "lesss"

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